Tuesday, October 16, 2012

October 15th Meeting Notes


We had an enjoyable meeting last night with 28 in attendance and 7 members reading. Remember that we are now meeting in the Lutheran Church on Tropicana. The building is large and if you're feeling unsure about how to find us, here are a few pictures to help. Go to the lower level, and look for room 2
 The nice sign saying "Henderson Writers' Group Weekly Meeting" reassures you that you're in the right place. Go through the door and past the vending machines and copiers. You'll see room with an open door at the end of the hall.
 Here we are!


ANNOUNCEMENTS: We have a booth at the Thursday Farmer's Market on Water Street in Henderson. Feel free to come by, visit, and sell your books if you'd like. The group is covering the fee for the booth.

We may have a new location in Henderson and go back to alternating the location of our weekly meeting. Stay tuned.

BRAGS: Our brag this week comes all the way from Ohio. Congratulation to Henderson Writer's Group member Judy McFadden. Her story "Great Scott" appears in the September release of "Chicken Soup for the Soul: I Can't Believe My Dog Did That!"

QUOTES OF THE NIGHT: Here are two little tidbits from Darlene and Jo that I found interesting:

Did you know Word has a feature that will highlight passive voice and show you what percentage of your writing is in the passive voice? To find it go to Tools, Spelling and Grammar, then Readability and Statistics.

A short story is considered to be 7,000 words or less. 7,000-40,000 words would be called a novella. A novel is between 40,000 and 85,000 words, unless you're writing fantasy, which can be up to 160,000 words.

(Unless you're Robert Jordan, whose books come in around 300,000 words each, or Brandon Sanderson. His "Way of Kings" is a hefty 387,000 words long. Tolstoy's "War and Peace" is about 580,000 words, Hugo's "Les Miserables" is about 530,000 words.)

UPCOMING MEETINGS: Our next meeting is Monday October 22nd. The next monthly West Side meeting is October 24 at the CLAIM JUMPER (not Round Table Pizza). For more information on our meetings see the calendar.

ARTICLE:

To Self Publish or Not to Self Publish 
by Eva Santiago

"What do these famous authors and their novels listed here have in common? Mark Twain- Huckleberry Finn, John Grisham- A Time to Kill, Walt Whitman-Leaves of Grass, Richard Paul Evans- The Christmas Box , Beatrix Potter- Creator of The Peter Rabbit series and Julia Child- the Joy of Cooking. These are among the many famous authors who self-published their works first then went on to become best sellers. These writers never gave up after receiving numerous rejection letters from publishing houses. So they took a stab at it an did it themselves. What followed for them was that once they self published, the publishers took note and picked up their self published work.

Before I had written one word of my first book, As Clear as Claire Gets, A Conversation with the Past, I did my home work. I was astonished to find that one of my favorite writers, Mark Twain had gone through the self publishing process. Would a major publisher take note of my work? But then I read a long list of other authors who had done the same thing and I thought, ‘ There’s obviously something to this! ‘ So heck yeah, I went for it! I self published my first book,which is my life story. As Clear as Claire Gets,is a legacy to my family. I didn't promote it much and I did sell some copies. I also have it in a couple of libraries here in town. I was hoping to use it as a stepping stone and it did work that way. As Clear as Claire Gets, is long because I didn't have the money to hire a professional editor. But alas, the writing business is a learning process like no other right?

A year and a half after my first book, I finished my second manuscript. Salsa! The Taste of Life, is a volume of mostly short stories with some poetry. I was thinking of self publishing again; I seriously had my doubts about sending it anyplace. One of my daughters kept telling me that she thought it was very good and that I ought to send it in to a publisher. I was terrified of those terrible rejection letters so I said no way. But I started looking around on line and I was overwhelmed with the whole process of having to have a literary agent in order to even pitch anything to most major publishers. So I kept looking and then I found Tate Publishing; one of the very few publishers left who still take manuscripts without all the hassle. So I sent them my manuscript and held my breath for several weeks. Six weeks later I received the news of my life: We want to publish Salsa! , the email read. They also informed me that out of hundreds of manuscripts they receive every year, they only publish 4% of those. I had made the cut, I was elated!

So what have I learned from self publishing verses traditional publishing? Well for one, I had an editor assigned to help me polish my work and I thoroughly enjoyed it because it helped me see my writing in a new light. I also lost the fear of having my project scrutinized by the editor’s professional eye and realized she was there to help me take my writing to a whole new level. When I self published I had no idea what to do to market my book. Now, I am being trained by Tate Publishing so I can learn how to get my book out there. They invested in me so now they are going to do their best to make sure I do well because if Salsa! Succeeds it’s good news for them. 

Self publishing gave me a tremendous confidence that I never had before and traditional publishing took that confidence I already had to a whole new level.

- EVA SANTIAGO copyright 2012"


5 comments:

  1. OMG, Eva. Are you sure about Tate? TATE is a CHRISTIAN SELF PUBLISHER WHO WILL DEFINITELY ASK YOU FOR A HEFTY CONTRIBUTION IN RETURN FOR THEIR SERVICES. THE OWNER HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING A "CRACKPOT" SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD CHECK HIM OUT. REMEMBER, TATE IS NOT A TRADITIONAL PUBLISHER. PLEASE BE CAREFUL AND RESEARCH THIS COMPANY. THEN READ ANY CONTRACT YOU SIGN VERY CAREFULLY!! GOOD LUCK!

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  2. Dear Editor, I sent a comment several days ago that you decided not to publish and I am questioning your motives. I advised Eva that TATE is NOT considered a traditional publisher. They are listed as as self publisher – one that usually asks for over $1,000 from the writer for their services. This information can easily be verified online. I advised Eva to read any contract carefully. I repeat my warning to any writer considering TATE. Please publish this comment - 2nd attempt. Bobbi White - member Henderson Writer's Group

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  3. Bobbi,
    I apologize that I did not see your comments until today, a week after you submitted them. I have only been logging in one day a week to post the newsletter. I will check back more frequently in the future! Thanks for your thoughts and opinion.
    Jenny

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  4. Thanks for your concern.http://www.tatepublishing.com/index.php?gclid=CJin35HDl7MCFSnJtAodvV8AcA

    Tate Publishing & Enterprises, LLC, is a Christian-based, family-owned, mainline publishing organization with a mission to discover and market unknown authors.

    We are not a self-publisher in our approach, operation, or philosophy in any way. We receive tens of thousands of submissions and author inquiries each year, but we choose to accept only a small percentage of the authors who submit manuscripts to us. We will look at your work and respond within weeks with our observations.

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    1. My last word on this:

      Eva,
      I don't know what they base their information on. We have found that most of these types of groups with opinions are just relying on information that they have been told and have not taken the time to call the Tate offices with their questions. In addition many of the read the blogs, most of which have been posted by rejected authors. Unfortunately, you can post anything you want on the internet be it true or completely false and there is nothing that can be done about it. We find it interesting that many of the hosts and posters on the blog sites have been personally invited to visit the Tate offices with Tate paying 100% of all expenses plus some. Not one of them will accept an author. They blog and post without any first hand knowledge of what they are writing about.

      If a group cannot support you and recognize your accomplishments, I recommend finding a different group that can provide constructive comments. As with anyone, these people who have written their opinions are welcome to call our offices at any time with their concerns.

      Thanks,ccoffey@tatepublishing.com

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Upcoming Events & Places for Writers & Readers

At the Henderson Writers Group we support education and events around the Las Vegas Valley

Las Vegas Writers Conference


April 18-20, 2013
http://lasvegaswritersconference.com

Annual Student Writing Contest

The Henderson Writers Group is serious about educating writers. We believe that our youth, specifically students, are the place to start. To further these efforts we have established this writing contest to award scholarships to the best of these budding authors.
See Website for details & submission guidelines.
http://hendersonwritersgroup.com

Vegas Valley Book Festival

http://www.vegasvalleybookfestival.org/

Clark County Nevada Libraries

http://www.lvccld.org/about/locations.cfm